NismoB17 wrote:Hey guys I'm going to come out with a basic explanation and I read the Honda flame war on the first page. I'ma hit that first. Honda is cheap, Honda is everywhere, you can find parts for that car in most inner city street gutters. Am I down playing the Civic absolutely not. It's an ideology of fun, economy and is pretty much an ugly FF Lotus in terms of versatility and weight.
Now on to the actual point of my replying. The existence of an aftermarket varies and depends on demand. If there's the demand there's supply now you know no one's going to look at a Ford Escape and man lets start building performance parts for that but as long as it car's got a turbo or is a platform of potential like the brz/86 they will always be performance parts for it the last time the Sentra had a big performance base it was the Sentra SER and V spec now if the Sentra Nismo ends up being that way as well then we'll start to see more support there are some basic support for the Juke NISMO but at the end of the day the general consensus of a Juke is it's ugly I for one like the Juke NISMO but again I wouldn't buy one either because you know it's not really that appealing to me now that Sentra Nismo is released hopefully if they come out with good parts for it it will be more attractive against its competitors that have have that 4 cylinder turbo "tuners" it's going to be hard to compete with those names for now until the Nismo becomes more mainstream
I honestly bought it mainly because I converted from Subaru and wanted a good extremely uncommon daily for when I get my Skyline R32 GTR next summer.
Something that you fail to realize is how supply and demand works. A community could demand whatever amount of performance parts to their heart's content, BUT if the demanding party isn't willing to participate in group buys or simply support by purchasing parts. I've heard this before that the Sentra community is cheap on buying these high demanded parts. Many members throughout the different gen's showed this interests but with little to no pocket change to back up what they wanted. Unfortunately for that very reason the B16 bombed at the thought of being something special and the select few were able to exploit the possibilities with TWEED at one points who gave up on the community with it's lack of enthusiasm.
ANY Honda can out-weigh a Nissan, they've been tried and proven to be one of the better non-cheap cars in the market that are more than willing to be reliable/affordable and moddable. Yes, there are waaaaaaaaaaaay too many parts for those cars but it's what the common enthusiasts want who can't afford a Golf R, STI, Focus RS and any other high sought after car breaking the 30~35K mark.
A Sentra will ALWAYS be a commuter car with the sights of fuel economy, until Nissan get's serious and stops buckling at the sight of it's competitors they will continue to make mediocre products designed for the common consumer who is not interested in changing the car's abilities rather embracing their purchase from the get go... pretty color and cool affordable lines with a hint of aggression.
As long as the SR Turbo is there that Nismo is garbage... for a miniscule drop which barely alters it's center of gravity and "better" steering response the car remains being a non-Nismo aspect... which is a re-badged SR Turbo with minor tweaks. The best upgrade there is the tires really... the brakes were a poor attempt at brembo-like brakes, the same with giving larger brakes on the old B16 to cheap out on their customers... (Lucky B15 crowds) and not to mention the overly aggressive exterior to put enough downforce to render the car useless and added friction to slow it down, I wouldn't doubt if the SR Turbo would get a better lap time and/or 1/4 mile with that aspect alone.
All in all, both the SR Turbo and the Nismo Sentras were a poor attempt at showing their competitors their response and very late in the game. Their way of testing the water is redundant and should of just waited for the B18 to actually design something from scratch to have the ability to take on it's competition as I explained earlier.