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By BlackoutV
#3080
Ok, so i know that people who drive race cars, shave their tires. Now, I've heard it makes them stick better and last longer...but how do they last longer if you're shaving some of the tire away? this just doesnt make sense to me....if anyone knows the reason for this please be my guest and enlighten me....
By BlackoutV
#3081
ok well i kind of answered my own question here, but it is definitly useful information. it says why tires are shaved and stuff, but it doesnt really answer my question of WHY shaved tires last longer...i still dont get it....anyhoo, heres what tirerack said about shaved tires:

One of the reasons radial racing slicks are so effective is because they feature shallow tread depths and their contact patch acts as a single unit. However, any tread design breaks up the contact patch into smaller elements and additional deep tread depth (required to enhance wet traction) allows tread block squirm which will reduce dry performance. This means that tires typically provide their worst wet traction ... and their best dry performance just before they wear out. However, its also important to remember that the heat generated every time a tire is driven activates bonding agents in the rubber. As this process is repeated continually throughout the tire's life, its rubber compounds gradually harden and lose flexibility reducing the tire's grip. Therefore, a shaved "new" tire will provide more traction than a tire worn to the exact same tread depth after being driven for thousands of miles on the road.

Tire shaving is an effective means of permitting more of a tire's performance capability to be realized early in its life. Tire shaving removes tread rubber and reduces tire weight by several pounds. A shaved tire's tread profile will usually result in a slight increase in the width of the tire's contact patch putting a little more rubber on the road. The resulting shallower tread depths reduce the tire's slip angle, increases its responsiveness and help stabilize its cornering power by minimizing tread block squirm. Minimizing tread block squirm also reduces heat buildup and the risk of making the tire go "off" by overheating its tread compound. And in many cases, shaved tires used in competition actually have a longer useful life than tires that begin being run at full tread depth.

So with all of these benefits, the next important question is: "How far should a tire be shaved?"

Hoosier R3S03, A3S03, R3S04 and A3S04 radials, as well as KUMHO ECSTA V710 and Avon Tyres Tech R tires are manufactured with 4/32 to 4.5/32" of molded tread depth and do not require tire shaving.

Most other DOT-legal Competition tires begin with about 6/32" of molded tread depth. While some tires do not require shaving for dry autocross use, all of them will benefit from shaving to about 4/32" tread depths for driver's schools, track days and competitive track use in dry conditions.
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By xbrandonx
#3099
Shaved COMPETITION tires last longer.

It has to do with the process of heating up/cooling down that they mention and hardening of the tires. Once they get hard for competition purposes, they're junk.

I've also seen blocks of tread get ripped off of brand new tires in autocross. James had a set he didn't get through on the 1st pass and he tore up 2 tires, thus not even getting one full event out of them.
By BlackoutV
#3106
xbrandonx wrote:Shaved COMPETITION tires last longer.

It has to do with the process of heating up/cooling down that they mention and hardening of the tires. Once they get hard for competition purposes, they're junk.

I've also seen blocks of tread get ripped off of brand new tires in autocross. James had a set he didn't get through on the 1st pass and he tore up 2 tires, thus not even getting one full event out of them.


i know competition tires..lol and yea thanks for clarifying that, it makes a bit more sense to me now...
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By Tonez
#3108
Probably a good thing that was clarified or eventually.... lol
Good information to know though, regardless. :thumbsup:
By BlackoutV
#3111
07BlackedOut wrote:Probably a good thing that was clarified or eventually.... lol
Good information to know though, regardless. :thumbsup:


thx tonez! =)
By BlackoutV
#3311
duesMANdella wrote:
07BlackedOut wrote:Probably a good thing that was clarified or eventually.... lol
Good information to know though, regardless. :thumbsup:



Yeah this is great info, i just learned


yaayyy!! =) :thumbsup:
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