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#245284
Hey Allsentra forum!

For those of you who haven't been following me or EcuTek, I wanted to share some exciting news with you.

EcuTek has released tuning support for both the Gen2 Juke and 17+ Sentra SR Turbo (They share the same motor)

We personally own a Gen2 Juke and have a Sentra SR Turbo on it's way to us.

Results have been impressive so far

Here is a Sentra 6SPD with catback exhaust, AEM Intake with ourSTG1 tune and without

Image

The gain under the curve is what makes the car a blast to drive now.

Our tuning kit can be found on our website - https://www.viscontituning.com/collecti ... tuning-kit

Looking forward to getting our car.

John
#245286
Thanks a lot John! Looks like there's a bit of lag up to 2.5 but it comes on really strong and that's still pretty early in the RPMs. Looking forward to seeing what else you can do with this platform and this may get more enthusiasts interested in the B17. You're doing good work, keep it up!
#245292
congratulations
this is great news

and Thanks for the effort
most had seen the advertised hp and just gave up on this model

from the moment i spotted the prototypes in the Ga mts
i knew this was gonna be good

initially, having seen how fast the prototypes were, i was disappointed in the power levels

however, once one appeared on 2js dyno, i knew they were very much underrated

with the bolt-ons coming these should equal the 260-280whp jukes i have driven


Thanks again Visconti,
i hope you sell a million tunes
#245293
mods or i will delete this if deemed inappropriate

folks your stiffest competition
the honda r

ms ugly, rice-a-roni
Image20171106_131332 by Barry Belgard, on Flickr

personallly any b17 on the member site looks better than this
imo

i prefer the looks of the nismo

now
most have paid at least msrp 34,000 for this car

it's good yes,
but not as fast as the modern mustang or camero track cars

[i can no longer run with track only mustangs or camero's
joes' lm1 is a low 11sec car in the 1/4 and way faster than mine at amp]

but i can stomp this honda anywhere
#245294
the real advantage to the honda r is the resolution to tork steer and tramlining

it goes straight at wot
while i'm fighting the steering wheels in mine

they did this by moving the wheels, even hubs, as far inboard as possible
and utilizing half shafts as close to equal length as practically possible

though rated over 300 hp
[guessing from the 2, i ran, 280whp]

at least in playing with me, seem overrated
even at 330whp i easily pull away

esp at 80-100mph speeds

they seem to get hot fast and lose power

btw
roll-on racing from 60-80mph up, seems to me a most unskilled task
you just floors it

so it not a skill test, as if from a dead stop

in these tests, it seems to come up short.

does better from a complete stop
one of the easiest to launch fwd cars, i have ever been in

3500rpm, side step clutch, hold throttle for a sec, floor it
straight as an arrow

easy, almost auto, 2.2sec 60ft times for most anybody

this in my opinion is it's real advantage
unless your skilled, don't run them from a dig
#245295
Well, nowadays it's not only about the quarter... the Civic Type R handles exceptionally at it's peak-point and as it's base form. You know Honda like to take huge leaps against it's competition and their response with this Civic in-general pretty much told their competition to back off (again)... Nissan's "Nismo" Sentra has been long seen as a joke, even after they announced it back in 2015. Nissan continuously drop the ball and their "loyal" consumers whom are deemed enthusiasts try to pick up this ball and create their own version of what a SR/SE-R/SE-R Spec V/Nismo should be. Granted, the common consumer isn't looking into tuned track cars and quarter mile numbers, but stock turbos help with fuel economy (hence all the VW/Audi car's and Civic's to name a few).

Nissan's response with the SR Turbo was ok... but keeping the other trims was an insult to themselves as they fumbled with that and then the massive fumble with the Nismo, being a riced out SR Turbo with minimal modification to "improve" the car so they can jack up the price some. Even though it's a copy to Honda's formula, it's something they got right and others unfortunately have to follow...

Longer wheel base and turbo across all trims.
Base, S and SL should be the base turbo models with the difference in tech goodies etc...
The SR would be the Si or SE-R/Spec V option replacement.
...and the Nismo would be the Type R/Golf R/STi's direct competitor... if not the regular Nismo could be entry level like the Focus ST and the Nismo RS would be the competitor to all others mentioned plus the Focus RS.
Also, getting rid of the useless and under sold FE+ model... the turbo on the Base - SL models should be the better option for the fuel economy bs the FE+ promotes until full EV begines to replace everything in the market (due to Tesla's and Jaguar's advances in the EV industry)

...So, less trims, same engines offered different tuning should save them money on this model.
Base, S, SR, SL, Nismo, Nismo RS (5 to 6 trims / 3 w/ 1.6L stock tune turbo for fuel economy and 2 to 3 with the same engine and different "race inspiring" tuning lol. ) (Last one probably won't be needed and everyone is happy.)
Base, S, FE+, SR Midnight, SR Turbo, SR Turbo Midnight, Nismo... (7 trims / 4 non-turbo 1.8L and 3 with 1.6L turbos w/ different tunes )
#245296
people forget i'm not just a drag racer

and have more seat time in mt runs than on drag strips
some here have run the mts with me and can testify to that


the honda's ability in the mts is good
because it's easy to drive, goes straight when nailed and holds its line well

engine tq comes in low making gear choice less critical

a good more neutral, miata type car with more power
fun on a track stock or take it to the mts right off the show room floor

so we agree

however you prob paid near 35k for it

i hear tell of sr-t's going for under 20 grand


gee a brand new project car lol

i'm not defending nissan
just being an opportunist

20k plus
5k built short block [1.8l]
2k turbo up grade
1k bc coils
1k wilwood brakes
29k
starting with a new car
lol

believe me i looked hard at the honda
but modding it further is very difficult


has great brakes
Image20171106_131407 by Barry Belgard, on Flickr

but mine are 10 years old, far behind the new 6 puck wilwoods

yet without abs seem better in intense moments
Image20171004_162139 by Barry Belgard, on Flickr

i'm envious of the headlights and hood scoop
Image20171106_131424 by Barry Belgard, on Flickr

it's way easier in all handling planes,
except braking, than driving mine
but sadly, not any faster thru the corners imo

while i used to run with stangs and vettes and can still run with gto's [modern] in the mts
they are way faster now

and despite their size easier to drive,
due to computer traction aids and such

this honda barley makes my level in handling
and lacks power compared to even mine


puts imports far behind the muscle cars now
and truly i'm finding it disappointing
[not talking Porsche or such]


it's what i would expect of a modern SI
imo
Last edited by yogib777 on Thu Dec 07, 2017 10:21 am, edited 1 time in total.
#245297
Barry, everyone here knows you're the overall racer in-general both in mtn, track and drag strips. I know you're not defending Nissan, I've been a loooong fan of Nissan's designs and engineering. I would prefer purchasing something 15+ years old rather than buying something new they come out with. Unfortunately for Nissan, their competition is huge and there is so many other options that can make you look away from the cheaper unpopular version for similar competitive pricing. I personally for 34K+ wouldn't even look at the Civic... I'd rather buy a V6 Accord with everything in it. Yet, to keep it compact, I'd still look into a more AWD setup, like an WRX/STi or a Golf R (Ford is unacceptable for me...)
#245298
i can't disagree with you
after all i rebuilt mine instead of buying new

however getting back to what the orig poster said
"The gain under the curve is what makes the car a blast to drive now."

this is true imo too
it is a very fun power plant in everyday use
imo

esp with some boltons
and coilovers
imo

haven't yet experienced the Visconti tuned versions yet
hope to soon
#245306
Some great points made here, but getting a little off topic guys. No need to delete anything but let's try to keep this thread focused on results/feedback on the tune. I think there's plenty of threads around here talking about how Nissan drops the ball these days on the performance compact segment.
#245309
Sorry, I guess the whole b17 thing hit a nerve in me... I do hope the support picks up but judging by how many years has passed since the b17 has been active and how slowly Nissan comes in and fails to produce early in the game of the b17 production.

If their affordable/attractive lines being Versa/Sentra/Altima in-terms of the common consumer and the enthusiasts in terms of pricing you'd think they'd focus a bit more on their product(s) and look around and see, "Shit, we're giving hand jobs away while the competition rapes us from behind!" O.o

heh, again, sorry. My last points, heh.
#245311
i need some cheese to go with my last whine too

oh if only, you coulda seen
that very quick prototype , machine

cut by the counters of the bean?
twas a very fast machine

i was on the hwy, doing the cruising scene

and along side pulls a b17
i could not help but laugh obscene

he left me there at the scene
took quite a while to catch that fast machine

so!
where did it go?

it wern't slow
just so you know
#245325
Oh and by the way I just picked up a 17 SR Turbo 6PD.. So you'l be seeing A LOT from me soon.

BrooksyCC7 wrote:Thanks a lot John! Looks like there's a bit of lag up to 2.5 but it comes on really strong and that's still pretty early in the RPMs. Looking forward to seeing what else you can do with this platform and this may get more enthusiasts interested in the B17. You're doing good work, keep it up!


The "Lag" is just how I was loading it up on the dyno

I'm happy with the results and totally expect more gains once we have a few more software tweaks from EcuTek


antastik wrote:Dope thinking about picking me up the tune soon!


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Awesome - would be glad to help when youre ready.

yogib777 wrote:congratulations
this is great news

and Thanks for the effort
most had seen the advertised hp and just gave up on this model

from the moment i spotted the prototypes in the Ga mts
i knew this was gonna be good

initially, having seen how fast the prototypes were, i was disappointed in the power levels

however, once one appeared on 2js dyno, i knew they were very much underrated

with the bolt-ons coming these should equal the 260-280whp jukes i have driven


Thanks again Visconti,
i hope you sell a million tunes


I was the first to start tuning the Juke platform so I've always have had a soft spot for these motors.

The Sentra motor which is also found in the Gen2 Juke is a little different than the orginal Juke but I'm happy with how it's performing so far.


yogib777 wrote:mods or i will delete this if deemed inappropriate


i prefer the looks of the nismo

now
most have paid at least msrp 34,000 for this car

it's good yes,
but not as fast as the modern mustang or camero track cars

[i can no longer run with track only mustangs or camero's
joes' lm1 is a low 11sec car in the 1/4 and way faster than mine at amp]

but i can stomp this honda anywhere



This "STG1" Sentra has:

AEM Intake
2J catback exhaust

The AEM Intake causes a HUGE fuel trim so I do NOT recommend it unless you plan on getting a tune ASAP - especially if you have a CVT. The fuel trim will screw up the TRQ Management on the TCM.
#245328
Visconti wrote:Oh and by the way I just picked up a 17 SR Turbo 6PD.. So you'l be seeing A LOT from me soon.

BrooksyCC7 wrote:Thanks a lot John! Looks like there's a bit of lag up to 2.5 but it comes on really strong and that's still pretty early in the RPMs. Looking forward to seeing what else you can do with this platform and this may get more enthusiasts interested in the B17. You're doing good work, keep it up!


The "Lag" is just how I was loading it up on the dyno

I'm happy with the results and totally expect more gains once we have a few more software tweaks from EcuTek


antastik wrote:Dope thinking about picking me up the tune soon!


Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk


Awesome - would be glad to help when youre ready.

yogib777 wrote:congratulations
this is great news

and Thanks for the effort
most had seen the advertised hp and just gave up on this model

from the moment i spotted the prototypes in the Ga mts
i knew this was gonna be good

initially, having seen how fast the prototypes were, i was disappointed in the power levels

however, once one appeared on 2js dyno, i knew they were very much underrated

with the bolt-ons coming these should equal the 260-280whp jukes i have driven


Thanks again Visconti,
i hope you sell a million tunes


I was the first to start tuning the Juke platform so I've always have had a soft spot for these motors.

The Sentra motor which is also found in the Gen2 Juke is a little different than the orginal Juke but I'm happy with how it's performing so far.


yogib777 wrote:mods or i will delete this if deemed inappropriate


i prefer the looks of the nismo

now
most have paid at least msrp 34,000 for this car

it's good yes,
but not as fast as the modern mustang or camero track cars

[i can no longer run with track only mustangs or camero's
joes' lm1 is a low 11sec car in the 1/4 and way faster than mine at amp]

but i can stomp this honda anywhere



This "STG1" Sentra has:

AEM Intake
2J catback exhaust

The AEM Intake causes a HUGE fuel trim so I do NOT recommend it unless you plan on getting a tune ASAP - especially if you have a CVT. The fuel trim will screw up the TRQ Management on the TCM.

Oh damn.... so no AEM until the tune? I was ready to put my parts on:
AEM (CAI)
Mid pipe
pulley



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#245332
I was the first to start tuning the Juke platform so I've always have had a soft spot for these motors.

The Sentra motor which is also found in the Gen2 Juke is a little different than the orginal Juke but I'm happy with how it's performing so far.


do you think these will come up to RS juke levels in whp?
[near 300whp fully modded with rs cams and tune]

if these things do
these might really be the underground tuner cars
of the next generation

i don't like the way these jukes handle in the mts
[i've only driven modded, two wheel drive, 6 speeds ,traction control off]

but the motor is an absolute gem

i wanna swap it into a b15
lol

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